Eulogies and Boundaries: Orthodox Jews and the Legacy of Charlie Kirk (264)

Charlie Kirk's assassination is a shocking, tragic act of violence. Murder is a desecration of the image of God, full stop. We condemn it unequivocally, and we pray for comfort for his family and for all who were harmed. At the same time, Charlie Kirk was a complicated public figure. He was outspokenly pro-Israel and often advocated for Jewish safety; he also voiced criticisms of Israel's current government. He advanced positions that many in the Orthodox world consider essential, and others consider deeply problematic. He defended Israel vigorously, and he also gave a platform to voices widely regarded as openly antisemitic. All of that can be true at once, and ignoring any part of that picture does our community no favors. In the days since his death, we've seen Orthodox individuals and organizations release statements ranging from restrained condolences to sweeping praise that some would call over-the-top. Today we're going to step back and ask, dispassionately and honestly: what should Charlie Kirk's legacy be for Orthodox Jews? This is neither a eulogy nor an indictment. Our aim is to slow the rush to hot takes and consider how a mature community remembers someone who meant very different things to different people. I have three guests on today's episode: Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein, Rabbi Benjamin Kelsen, and Rabbi Pesach Wolicki. Together we'll explore where they agree, where they diverge, and what that means for real life: how institutions and leaders speak publicly, and how we keep our disagreements from corroding relationships. Above all, we'll try to conduct this conversation in a way that is truthful, proportionate, and humane. Check out Orthodox Conundrum Commentary on Substack and get your free subscription by going to https://scottkahn.substack.com/ . We're excited to announce that we at Jewish Coffee House are continuing to expand the conversation by bringing you—our listeners—into the mix. Introducing JCH Q&A, an exciting new podcast where listener-submitted questions are answered in a thoughtful, honest, and engaging way. We plan to dive deep into your pressing hashkafic, political, and philosophical questions. We will address the ideas that matter, the issues that challange us, and the topics that spark real curiosity. To submit a question for our first episode, you must be a member of the JCH Podcast WhatsApp Community. ( Join here. ) No question is off limits, and all submissions will remain anonymous. We're looking forward to answering your questions on our first episode! Please listen to and share this podcast, and let us know what you think on the Orthodox Conundrum Discussion Group on Facebook ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/432020081498108 ). Thanks to all of our Patreon subscribers, who have access to bonus JCH podcasts, merch, and more - we appreciate your help, and hope you really enjoy the extras! Visit the JCH Patreon site at https://www.patreon.com/jewishcoffeehouse . Check out https://jewishcoffeehouse.com/ for the Orthodox Conundrum and other great podcasts, and remember to subscribe to them on your favorite podcast provider. Also visit https://www.jchpodcasts.com/ to learn all about creating your own podcast. Music: "Happy Rock" by bensound.com