About this episode
It's a body swap, y'all and fortunately Jason Saenz (@jasoncsaenz) is here to dissect this simple story made bonkers and confusing. Old cell phones act as totems which accidentally SWAP Ellie and Jack's bodies. GET THIS, they each have a big event coming up that is IMPERATIVE they do well for. Fortunately the pair figure out pretty quickly the mystical magical logic that they have to help each others' lives to improve their own and do some real healing. Tell us what your totem would look like @ITDVPodcast on twitter.