About this episode
The Ringer's Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald discuss the premiere of HBO's 'Westworld' (6:00) and the ingredients needed to have a hit in today's TV landscape. Then, Okkervil River frontman Will Sheff joins (22:30) to discuss his new album, ‘Away,' the trend of surprise releases (29:00), the difficulty of controlling one's art (39:00), sculpting band mythology (48:00), and battling for relevance in the music industry (54:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices