About this episode
The Ringer’s Chris Ryan and Alison Herman discuss Jimmy Fallon and his current place among late-night hosts (4:30). They also discuss HBO’s new show, ‘Here and Now’ (16:00). Later, Andy Greenwald sits down with Alex Kapranos and Bob Hardy of Franz Ferdinand (23:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices