About this episode
The Ringer's Chris Ryan and Justin Verrier sit down with Haley O’Shaughnessy and Paolo Uggetti to discuss the less than impressive Cavaliers-Celtics game and ask whether the teams have a real rivalry (0:50). Then they test out a new segment, "Illusion vs. Reality," in which they review the Raptors, Thunder, Nets, and more (10:30). Finally, they try to separate some of the middle-of-the-road teams from contenders and wannabes (30:50). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices