Idealistic Jurgen Klopp, changing Liverpool's substitutions and defending Jordan Henderson's statistics

Fortysomething football scribe Ian Doyle is joined by the even older LFC editor Andy Kelly and significantly younger ECHO scribe Paul Gorst to look back at the draw with Chelsea, contemplate rotation and ponder a Wednesday night in Stoke. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices