The Digiday Podcast

OpenAI's ad pilot is plagued with reporting hiccups and under-delivery issues. It's testing marketer's patience, but the fear of missing out on AI's next big platforms seems to outweigh their frustrations.

Once valued in the billions, digital media giants like BuzzFeed and Vox Media are now selling assets and restructuring as the old traffic-driven publishing model breaks down. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, Digiday senior media editor Jessica Davies and senior media reporter Sara Guaglione joins hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to unpack what the fall of billion-dollar valuations says about the future of digital media.

If shoppers start turning to AI assistants instead of retailer websites, the foundation of the retail media business could begin to crack. That’s the tension at the center of agentic commerce. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson explore how AI-powered shopping agents could reshape retail media networks, disrupt ad dollars and force retailers to rethink their role in the shopper journey.

The programmatic world seems split: is AI the future of media buying, or just a tool requiring heavy supervision? Duluth Trading Company lands somewhere in the middle by leveraging agents for high-speed bidding while keeping a firm human hand on brand storytelling, Duluth’s Director of Marketing Ellie Uberto joins Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson live from the Digiday Programmatic Marketing Summit on May 6 - 8 in Palm Springs, Calif. to break down's Duluth's approach to agents in media.

Is the era of performance-only marketing over? Performance returns are dropping. Brands are chasing AI visibility as LLMs take over search. All roads point to the return of 'brandformance.' Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson explain the brandformance to brand health metrics rebrand, and why marketers care about it again.

In this episode, Digiday senior marketing reporter Sam Bradley joins Digiday Podcast co-hosts Tim Peterson and Kimeko McCoy to break down Netflix's massive ad business glow up, and how the streaming giant is rewriting the streaming ad business playbook.

The AI ad race is heating up. OpenAI is staffing up and cutting deals to win brand budgets from Meta and Google. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, Digiday senior platforms reporter Krystal Scanlon joins hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to breakdown the ad business playbook.

Major agencies are pulling back ad spend from The Trade Desk’s OpenPath platform, citing concerns of hidden fees and lack of transparency. Meanwhile, TTD is shifting its payment model for identity providers, like LiveRamp and Experian. All said, The Trade Desk is facing a new set of rising tensions with agencies over transparency — and more importantly, programmatic control.

Mondelez vp of global digital commerce, Andrew Lederman, joins the Digiday Podcast to talk through how the CPG giant is aggressively shifting its digital commerce strategy to optimize for AI, ensuring brands like Oreo dominate agentic search.

The Guardian didn’t want to build an AI chatbot. Not a reader-facing one anyway. Not at the risk of that chatbot misrepresenting the news publisher’s journalism and undermining readers’ trust. “We’re not going to die if we don’t build a chatbot tomorrow. We need to be really clear about what the threats are externally, but ultimately what we have is something that’s worth protecting,” said Chris Moran, head of editorial innovation at The Guardian, during a live recording of the Digiday Podcast at the Digiday Publishing Summit in Vail, Colorado, on March 23. While not a chatbot, The Guardian has begun to roll out its first reader-facing AI product. But it doesn’t really look like an AI product. Called Storylines, the product is an AI-generated spin on the related links module common to publishers’ pages. It currently appears on a subset of The Guardian’s so-called “tag” pages, which typically list articles related to a given topic, such as “Trump,” in reverse-chronological order. Amid this article feed is an unassuming box with a selection of related articles threaded to a given narrative or storyline.

What does it take to sell an influencer agency right now? This week on the Digiday Podcast, Digital Voices founder Jennifer Quigley-Jones joins Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to break down her agency’s sale to PMG. Plus, what it says about the booming creator economy M&A moment.

A decade after the ANA’s bombshell report, the WPP debacle has forced a new standard of clarity in media buying. This week, Digiday executive editor of news Seb Joseph and Michael Burgi, senior editor of media buying and planning, join the Digiday Podcast to discuss why agencies are leaning into principal trading, and why some brands are finally reining them in.

Since its legal woes have been resolved, and the U.S. app was spun out earlier this year, TikTok has taken a muted approach to business. Digiday senior platform reporter Krystal Scanlon joins this episode of the Digiday Podcast to discuss why what looks like business as usual on the surface is more likened to hushed plight for more ad dollars, creators and users.

Ads in ChatGPT have entered their trial run period. Instead of agency partners, it's brands like The Knot Worldwide that find themselves at the helms of OpenAI's ad push. Marketers like The Knot's CMO Jenny Lewis are navigating everything from performance metrics to infrastructure.

Hootsuite’s partnership with ICE sparked controversy earlier this year, leading creators to take a closer look at the companies they work with. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, Tameka Bazile shares why she ended her deal with Hootsuite, how it prompted her to audit other brand partnerships, and what creators can learn about balancing ethics, audience expectations, and income.

The other shoe has finally dropped. After months of speculation, OpenAI officially began to test ads in ChatGPT in the U.S. Meanwhile, marketers are still trying to read the tea leaves around OpenAI's ad team, data insights and more as chatbot competition intensifies. Digiday's senior platforms reporter Krystan Scanlon joins the Digiday Podcast to make sense of it all.

Anthropic took a jab at OpenAI's ad product launch and T-Mobile and Coinbase used The Backstreet Boys top play up millennial nostalgia. Now that the dust has settled around the 60-plus Super Bowl ad spots rolled out this year, Tim Peterson and Kimeko McCoy are joined by Sunny Bonnell, co-founder and CEO of global brand strategy and design agency Motto, to reflect on the best and worst commercials from Super Bowl 2026.

Traditional TV — let alone a live NFL playoff game — might be the last ad inventory type you’d think to test trying out AI agents against. And yet that’s exactly what NBCUniversal did last month. The media conglomerate ran a test with ad agency RPA, marketing analytics firm Newton Research and Comcast-owned ad tech firm FreeWheel to have AI agents participate in buying an ad against a live NFL playoff game. But did it work? “It works. It is a functioning technical proof-of-concept that accurately represents what the buyer wants to buy and what the seller has to sell,” said Ryan McConville, chief product officer and evp of ad products and solutions at NBCUniversal on the latest Digiday Podcast. Despite the successful test, NBCU isn’t about to outsource its entire ad sales process to AI agents anytime soon. “We are a ways away from having this fully productionalized where multiple agencies are using this day in and day out to replace current workflows,” he said. That said, NBCU is now a lot closer to what McConville calls”premium automation,” as he explained in the episode.

Is there a difference between a creator and an influencer. If so, what’s the difference and why does it matter to marketers? On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, Digiday staffers debate the topic.

Two years after OpenAI signed its first content licensing deal with Axel Springer, the field of AI platforms doing business with publishers has expanded exponentially. Especially just in the past year. But then the publishers have to evaluate those options. Fortunately Digiday senior media editor Jessica Davies and senior media reporter Sara Guaglione have done a lot of that legwork in drafting a scorecard of the major AI platforms based on interviews with publishers. They joined the show to review the rankings and share the reasoning behind why platforms from Meta to Microsoft, Anthropic to OpenAI may rate higher or lower than you’d expect. Check out Jess and Sara’s written scorecard here: https://digiday.com/media/publishers-scorecard-for-big-techs-ai-licensing-deals/

This year's CES was all about agentic AI and little else. Digiday executive editor Joseph was boots-on-the-ground for this year's show in Las Vegas. He joins this episode of the Digiday Podcast to make sense of this year's event, and what it means as 2026 gets underway.

This week's episode takes a look at how 2025's cliffhangers—everything from Netflix's planned acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery to the ripple effects of the Omnicom-IPG merger—and how it all could play out in 2026. Digiday managing editor Sara Jerde and executive editor of news Seb Joseph join hosts Tim Peterson and Kimeko McCoy to try and read the 2026 tea leaves.

This year was filled with major developments, from Netflix’s planned WBD deal to Omnicom’s acquisition of IPG to the introduction of AI-only video feeds. But there were also developments that didn’t really happen, like the U.S. spinoff of TikTok and Google’s third-party cookie deprecation. Digiday editors Sara Jerde and Seb Joseph joined hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to recap the year that was (and wasn’t).

This week’s episode recaps Disney’s deal to open up its character library to OpenAI and Google’s reported plan to roll out ads in its Gemini chatbot. Then Davis Wright Tremaine partner Rob Driscoll joins the show to delve into the copyright concerns and potential trademark issues surrounding brands’ use of generative AI tools (16:40).

This week’s episode unpacks two major developments in the media and entertainment industries. Digiday’s executive editor of news Seb Joseph joins to analyze Netflix’s plan to purchase Warner Bros. Discovery’s studio and streaming business (3:43) as well as Meta’s foray into signing content licensing deals with publishers for its AI chatbot (25:37). Then this week’s featured segment is a live recording from last week’s Digiday Programmatic Marketing Summit, in which Attention Arc’s Christopher Francia makes the case for why programmatic ad buying shouldn’t be outsourced to AI agents (34:50).

On this week's episode, the smoke is clearing in the Omnicom-IPG merger with a clearer look at how its media, tech and creative will operate going forward coming into focus. Plus, another ripple in OpenAI's author lawsuit begins to surface. Then (16:30), Digiday's senior marketing reporter Sam Bradley joins the show to discuss WPP's turbulent 2025, and what it'll take to turn things around in 2026.

This week’s episode recaps the who’s who of Warner Bros. Discovery acquisition bids, the end to Meta’s antitrust case, the Omnicom-IPG deal’s final hurdle and why Adobe acquired Semrush. Then (13:40), Digiday’s platforms reporter Krystal Scanlon joins the show to discuss how OpenAI could seriously pursue an ad business.

This week’s episode recaps Paramount raising new ad arbitrage questions, Amazon and Google unveiling new ad agents and IAB Tech Lab introducing its Agentic RTB Framework. Then Digiday’s executive editor of news Seb Joseph and senior ad tech reporter Ronan Shields join the show to outline how, with the introduction of Ad Context Protocol and ARTF, the ad industry is laying the pipes for programmatic advertising’s intersection with AI agents.

This week’s episode recaps the YouTube TV-Disney distribution standoff (5:50), Netflix’s interest in acquiring Warner Bros. Discovery (14:50) and the rising revenue Google and Meta are reaping from their respective short-form video platforms (20:00). Then Tracy Yaverbaun, gm of The Times and Sunday Times, joins the show to talk about the British news publisher’s work with Electric Twin to create a synthetic audience research panel based on The Times’ human reader panel (27:20).

On this week's episode, digital creator and actor Kalen Allen talks navigating brand safety and the so-called culture wars in the creator economy (24:50). Plus, what WPP Open Pro launch says about the agency AI arms race, Reddit’s Perplexity lawsuit and the future AI framework, and the latest on the Warner Bros. Discovery possible sale.

This week's episode pours one out for Google's Privacy Sandbox as the saga comes to an end and takes a look at the rise of agentic AI while Pinterest tries to curb its AI slop. Then (21:24), David Huntzinger, an agent at talent management firm Night, joins the show to make sense of how the creator economy is positioning itself as a media channel.

This week’s episode recaps Instagram eyeing the launch of a CTV app and Perplexity putting its ad business on pause. Then Digiday platforms reporter Krystal Scanlon joins the show to to discuss the state of the short-form video market as all-AI entrants like OpenAI’s Sora and Meta’s Vibes enter the fray alongside the impending TikTok U.S.

This week’s episode unpacks OpenAI’s launch of the Sora app and what it reveals about the company’s push into advertising (2:39). We also dive into Meta’s plan to use AI chatbot data for ad targeting (12:59), and Paramount’s acquisition of The Free Press, with founder Bari Weiss set to lead CBS News as editor-in-chief (16:14). Then, Digiday’s Seb Joseph and Ronan Shields join the show to discuss The Trade Desk’s growing challenges (21:50).

This week’s episode recaps OpenAI’s latest steps towards launching an advertising business (2:25), new details about ByteDance’s reported involvement in TikTok U.S. (10:21) and Meta’s introduction of an all AI-generated content platform with Vibes (14:34). Then Eater’s editor-in-chief Stephanie Wu joins the show to share her systems and tips for getting through the average work day (23:58).

This week’s episode recaps the deal for a U.S.-only version of TikTok (4:15), Disney’s Jimmy Kimmel controversy (10:27) and Meta’s talks to license content from publishers (18:21). Then The Washington Post’s Sam Han joins the show to explain what the role of chief AI officer actually entails and why a media company would want to appoint an AI overseer (26:26). Related stories Even with a new U.S. TikTok deal in sight, marketers feel uneasy Overheard at the Digiday Publishing Summit, September 2025 Google search edition

Retail media networks have been striking deals and inking partnerships with social and streaming platforms to open up ad inventory across the internet. It’s a push to get advertisers to see RMNs as full funnel marketing channels as opposed to a search and display one trick pony. Now, if advertisers like Ferrero see it as such, that’s still up for debate (18:29). Also on this episode, why Paramount Skydance is eyeing a bid for Warner Bros Discovery (3:18), what the Amazon and Netflix DSP deal could mean for The Trade Desk (8:47) and inside the FTC’s latest big tech probe (14:30).

This week's episode goes inside the search wars. More people are starting their online search with AI-powered chatbots and publishers are feeling the effects. To breakdown what AI search means for publishers (15:22), Digiday staffers Jessica Davies, senior media editor and Sara Guaglione, senior media reporter, join the show. Also on this episode: Google won't have to sell Chrome after all (1:27), Apple plans its own AI-powered search engine (8:15) and publishers call to include Gemini in Google investigation (12:42).

This week’s episode recaps what ended up being a messy summer, from corporate changeovers and AI existentialism to fresh competition for Google and a return to the TV bundle for streaming. Oh, and tariffs; we can’t forget tariffs. As stated, the season was kind of a mess, and Digiday managing editor Sara Jerde joined the show to help make sense of the events that transpired and what they portend for the rest of 2025. Related stories: WPP has its next CEO – but what do clients make of the heir apparent? The coalition of the willing (and unable): publishers rally to wall off AI’s free ride Google readies its last stand in latest antitrust trial The next browser wars are here — and AI wants the ad dollars too How tariffs have upended the back-to-school season

This week’s episode recaps xAI’s lawsuit against Apple and OpenAI (3:58), retail media’s recent boom that could be a bubble (11:11), and publishers’ push to usage-based pricing in their AI deals (15:23). Then (18:50) Digiday editors Seb Joseph and Michael Bürgi join the show to discuss how generative AI technologies could spur agencies to lose client relationships or push brands to rely on agencies even more for AI access. Related articles: Why generative AI doesn’t fit into a standard in-housing playbook – yet As AI alters cost of creative, indie agencies review how they charge clients WTF is AI ‘grounding’ licensing, and why do publishers say it matters over training deals?

On this week's episode, AI startup Perplexity puts in its bid to buy Google Chrome and The Trade Desk loses exclusivity with Walmart DSP, signaling another tough loss for the tech titan. Then (19:00), Uber's global head of ads Kristi Argyilan shares how she got her job, and why her career path may no longer be replicable.

On this week's episode, Disney phases out Hulu and launches ESPN streaming service, and that's just one part of streaming's current reshuffling. Meanwhile, the Omnicom-IPG d eal gets another go-ahead in the U.K.. Then, Reddit chief operating officer Jennifer Wong joins the Digiday Podcast to talk about Reddit's plans to become a go-to search engine.

This week’s episode recaps Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s personal superintelligence memo, the reported price Amazon is paying to license The New York Times’s content and a check-in on the TV and streaming advertising upfront as negotiations wrap up. Then (18:51), Digiday senior media reporter Sara Guaglione and executive editor of news Seb Joseph join the show to share their reporting on a recent meeting between IAB Tech Lab, more than 80 publishers and AI giants including Google and Meta to discuss how publishers can respond to AI companies scraping their sites.

This week's episode recaps the Trump administration’s greenlight of the $8 billion union of Paramount and Skydance, and the White House's AI Action plan. Then (16:11), Alexander Lee, senior entertainment media reporter, and Krystal Scanlon, platforms reporter, join the Digiday Podcast to parse through what’s in, what’s out and who’s getting paid in the creator economy right now.

This week’s episode recaps what CBS's cancellation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert says about the media business and takes a look at OpenAI's agentic AI offering. Then (24:20) Albert Thompson, head of digital innovation at ad agency Walton Isaacson, joins the show in a live recording from Digiday’s CTV Advertising Strategies event to break down why the CTV ad industry needs to prioritize more native ad formats.

Creator Brandon Edelman stops by the Digiday Podcast to talk about his pivot to full-time content creation, how he strikes brand deals and life after TikTok (22:00). Also on this episode, Digiday platforms reporter Krytsal Scanlon joins co-hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to talk about Linda Yaccarino’s exit from X, what WPP’s new CEO means for the holding company’s growth and how AI is shaping the next era of the browser wars.

YouTuber Michelle Khare joins the Digiday Podcast to break down how she’s leveling up her content — from viral challenges to Emmy buzz (18:24). Plus, co-hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson unpack Paramount’s $16 million settlement with the Trump administration, why European publishers are taking aim at Google’s AI Overviews, and what TikTok’s rumored app reboot means for its U.S. future.

This week’s episode recaps Meta’s reported look at acquiring Perplexity, the U.S. Federal Trade Commission’s conditional approval of the Omnicom-IPG merger and Netflix’s deal to carry traditional TV networks in France. Then Select Management Group’s Danielle Pistotnik (21:45) joins the show to go behind the scenes of developing “The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” around a group of TikTok creators and selling the reality show to Disney-owned Hulu.

Amid the AI hype, increasingly fragmented media marketplace and economic headwinds, marketers this year came to the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity looking for answers. For Carly Carson, PMG’s head of integrated media, this year’s festival served as a temperature check for an industry in flux. As the book closes on another Cannes Lions, Carson has pocketed three takeaways: AI still needs a human infusion, Garbage in, garbage out and Ad dollars need to keep up with changing consumption habits.

Between panels and parties, creators like former bachelorette Rachel Lindsay are looking to get face time with ad execs, brand marketers and partners like Spotify. However, rather than coming to the Croisette to strike deals, they’re playing a long game. Joined by Roman Wasenmüller, head of podcast business at Spotify, and Digiday Podcast co-host Kimeko McCoy, Lindsay pulls back the curtain on the creator at Cannes experience, monetization strategy and more.

A few years ago, Twitter Beach was one of the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity places to be. Nowadays, the beach and Twitter execs are harder to find. Instead of the flashy fireside chats and branded lounges, X’s execs are found behind closed doors, quietly courting marketers and media buyers against a backdrop of lawsuits, Global Alliance for Responsible Media (GARM)’s disbanding and political crosshairs. It’s a clear sign that the platform’s role in the ad ecosystem– and culture overall–has dramatically shifted. In this episode of the podcast, platforms reporter Krystal Scanlon joins host Kimeko McCoy about Twitter, now X, and what its retreat from the Cannes beachfront says about its relationship with advertisers, as well as TikTok’s head in the sand mentality around the ban.