B.J. Novak on “Vengeance”, podcasts and the downside of the streaming boom

B.J. Novak has starred on TV, written a best-selling kids’ book, and tried his hand at app-making. Now he’s written, directed, and starred in his own movie: Vengeance, about a self-obsessed podcaster, red/blue state divides, and much more. He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about making the movie during a pandemic, what it was like to be on The Office when it was on NBC and then on Netflix, and why streaming is a “wasteland for comedy.” Plus! The New York Times' James Poniewozek explains why the January 6 hearings’ novel format has worked on TV and social media. Featuring : B.J. Novak ( @bjnovak ), Actor, Comedian, and Writer James Poniewozik ( @poniewozik ), TV Critic for The New York Times Host : Peter Kafka ( @pkafka ), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore : Subscribe for free to Recode Media , Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox : Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices