About this episode
This week, I'm welcoming fellow substacker and Tolkien nerd, Charles McBride, whose essay 'Shire Anarchy' caught my eye in the cultural curiosity that is the substack notes app. We're diving into the political imagination behind Middle-Earth – a world where having a king is perfectly fine, as long as he's quite far away or, better yet, long dead. From childhood obsessions with Tolkien to the strange bedfellows his work creates in modern fandom, Charles and I explore what it means when the villain of the story isn't a particular people, but the very desire for total control. How did this Franco-supporting Catholic writer end up crafting one of the most compelling visions of localism and self-governance in modern literature? And what might the hobbits teach us about freedom in an age of empire? "I think Shire anarchy is best described in a sentence I wrote in the piece, where I said that all the affairs of hobbits are organized under the assumption that having a king was basically a good idea, so long as he was quite far away, or better yet, long dead. And I think that that kind of cuts to the heart of what this concept of Shire anarchy is. You have a society that holds a reverence for the past. And they believe that their system of political and social organization is derived from something authoritative in their deep, distant past." Show Notes Charles's amazing essay, Shire Anarchy . Charles on Instagram . Timestamps 02:00 - Charles' essay "Shire Anarchy" and initial connection 04:00 - Childhood experiences with Tolkien and homeschooling background 08:30 - Gordon's similar Tolkien childhood experiences 11:00 - Discussion of Substack platform and media evolution 14:00 - Tolkien's political views and introduction to "quiet radicalism" 15:30 - Explanation of Tolkien as an "anarcho-monarchist" 18:30 - Monarchy, pragmatism, and Tolkien's support for Franco 22:30 - The Ring as metaphor for power, greed, and capital 25:00 - Lord of the Rings' resilience against political appropriation 27:30 - Peter Jackson's film adaptation achievement 29:00 - Charles' viral thread about polarized Tolkien fandom 32:00 - CS Lewis vs. Tolkien on moral clarity and writing 35:30 - Lewis as a potential universalist and perennial philosophy 38:30 - Religious conversion, cultural identity, and belonging 42:30 - Modern politics, monarchy, and fascism as shadow kingship 45:00 - Definition and explanation of "Shire anarchy" concept 50:30 - Charles' personal political journey toward anarchism 54:00 - Political polarization and contemporary discourse 57:00 - Defining philosophical anarchism and attitudes toward hierarchy 59:30 - Religion as natural human function and political movements 63:00 - Discussion of The Hobbit movies and fan edits 69:00 - Concluding thoughts and where to find Charles online