About this episode
The Ringer's Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins discuss Taylor Swift's shaky roll-out of her new single, 'Look What You Made Me Do,' and accompanying VMA video release (5:00), Swift's corporate sponsorships (12:00), Katy Perry's credibility in the pop music world (17:00), and the winners and losers from MTV's Video Music Awards (22:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices