About this episode
HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Malcolm Gladwell on ways to fix track and field (3:00), how sports doping has changed over the years (10:00), Michael Phelps’s status as one of the world’s biggest athletes (29:00), and what the NBA can learn from FIBA (41:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices