About this episode
Two classmates. Thirty years of ministry. And one question that wouldn’t go away: Am I truly loved by God? Today, Francis Chan sits down with long-time friend, Pastor Ken Murphy to talk about the drift from joy into performance and the moment a revelation of God’s grace finally broke through. This is a conversation about moving from “working to be loved” to living from a love that never changes. It’s the heartbeat of Francis’ new book, Beloved, an invitation to trade insecurity for assurance and worshipful joy. Beloved , is available for purchase now wherever books are sold.